If your plan sucks – change it

by bsrubin on May 18, 2011

I posted my plan to Get Ripped a few days ago – and I’ve been following it for a week.  Things seem to be going pretty well (already lost a few pounds of fat)… BUT it’s likely that I have the wrong plan for my goals.

Feedback I’ve gotten:

  • Forget this crap about eating less.  Eat as much as you like – and even more good fats (esp coconut oil and MCT oil).  Eat the right stuff and the rest will follow.
  • You said…  ‘this is primarily a matter of dropping that fat – rather than ‘this kid is just skinny as hell and needs to add muscle’.  Or at the least – I should drop that fat then add more muscle.’ But you are wrong – I looked at your picture – you are a skinny little twig that doesn’t need to lose more fat – you need to pack on some muscle (said nicely).

I think they are right.  I’ve got the wrong plan.  If my goal is to look like this:

Then just going from 11% body fat to 8% body fat isn’t going to do it.  I need to add 10-15 pounds of muscle as well. Adding muscle will serve me quite well in sports and activities as well.

What part of my plan needs to change?

  • The things I am choosing to eat are fine – but instead of ‘eat a bit less’ I should be ‘eating alot more’.  Not sure what my calorie target should be – but likely to be 3000-3500 calories per day.  I’ve been at 2000-2500.  I’m still waffling on exactly how much carbohydrate I will need.
  • Yoga, Rock Climbing, Cycling, etc. won’t prevent me from hitting my goals (as long as relatively moderate) – but they will not help me either.
  • Crossfit metabolic workouts will build strength and especially endurance – but not bulk.
  • I need to add lifting heavy things.  I’ve currently evaluating Westside Barbell, Westside Barbell for Skinny Bastards, Wendler 5/3/1, and Occam’s Protocol.  I’ll pick one and go with it.
  • I have been recommended by multiple sources using creatine.  I’ll give it a try – although last time I did it upset my stomach – so I’ll have to be careful about what type I use.  I should also be looking into protein sources – I’ll likely need some protein shakes to pack in enough calories but would like to keep it relatively clean and Paleo friendly.
  • The rest of my supplementation plan still seems sound.
  • Intermittent fasting is questionable.  I’m still mulling keeping it – as long as I can pack in enough calories during the 8 hour feeding window.
  • Can I stay lean while I am adding bulk?  Or do I have to accept some fat gain during this period and then lean out again?  I’d rather not – but adding muscle is the primary goal.

More soon as I bring this all together…

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  • http://armilegge.com Armistead Legge

    Haha, If you're talking about me as the skinny little kid, then thanks:)

    I think rock climbing, cycling, and especially hiking will all actually help a lot.  Even though your goal is to pack on muscle, these activities will help limit any possible fat accumulation. 

    If you're trying to gain muscle, I'd stick to around 10-20 % carbs.  That seems a bit high to some, but if it's from veggies you'll be fine.

    Ditch the butter and stick to coconut oil.  Much tastier and lactose free.

    I would try and do the Lean Gains IF for a while, and if you can't get in enough food, try this:

    go at least 12 hours everyday without food.  this could be like going 8 PM to 8 AM or something similar, but I find this works pretty well too.

    You also should try and change up your fasting pattern so your body can't adapt.  Remember hormesis.

    I don't think you have to add a ton of fat in order to put on muscle.  You will gain some, but your overall body comp may actually improve if you add more muscle than fat. 

    Occam's Protocol seems like the most effective, but also the hardest to maintain.  Maybe try it and then go with something else.

    Good luck man!

  • bsrubin

    Thanks for the feedback Armi!  I am pretty much exactly where you are suggesting.  My IF is going well – I am eating in an 8 hour window from 12:30-8:30.  Once I really condition myself on that for a few weeks I will switch things up by throwing in a fast day, a completely fed day, etc.
    I was a bit worried about fitting in enough calories int hat windows – but I am not having a problem.  Calories calculated by taking my current lean body mass (155), adding 10
    (165), and multiplying by 20.  3300 calories.  I'll likely cycle them a bit with more carbs and more calories on workout days.
    My current nutrient ration looks like this: 60/30/10 Fat/Protein/Carb
    On the workout front – I am still a bit split between an Occam's Protocol and a Wendler 5/3/1.  Occam's promises faster results (and less gym time) but is certainly more controversial and I'm less certain it will work.  Wendler 5/3/1 seems pretty tried and true (http://www.amazon.com/Simplest…  I'm going to give the Wendler 5/3/1 a try today and see how it goes!

  • http://armilegge.com Armistead Legge

    Sounds like you're doing a fucking awesome job as usual:) 
    Glad to hear the IF is going well, and as long as you don't make yourself sick with food in the first hour or two, it's usually pretty easy to get everything in about 8hrs.  I like your plan of shifting things around a bit after 2 weeks.  Very smart to keep the body from adapting. 

    Your calorie calculation seems solid, and it really doesn't have to be accurate, just consistent.  Calorie calculation as you probably know is about the most inexact science out there, even with indirect calorimetry. and VO2 Max Testing.
    The 60/30/10 sounds absolutely spot on.  I know it's hard for some people to get their carbs that low, bu I think you'll pack on muscle pretty fast with that combo.

    As for workouts, I did some more research and I think you're right.  Robb Wolf definitely favors the Wendler and Westside Barbell methods, and I trust that guy's opinion with this kind of stuff.

    Occam's is absolute torture, and might not work.  I'm also skeptical of something that promises such fast results, when I believe a steadier improvement is usually better when it comes to workouts.

    Please keep me updated on your progress.  I can't wait to see you totally shredded man- That really would be fucking awesome!

    Armi

  • bsrubin

    It's happening – and it will be fucking awesome!  Once I get this strength routine on track I'll start to more seriously hack emotions and mental capacity.  Can't wait!

  • http://armilegge.com Armistead Legge

    Can't wait to see the results.  This is going to be awesome!  I'm very interested in a lot of the psychology and emotional stuff too, but health is the foundation for everything else.  Without health, you can't be happy:)  there's even a lot of research on deficiencies in certain nutrients affecting brain chemistry etc.  Fascinating stuff!

    Great work Ben!

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